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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 04:30:20 PDT
From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-digital@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu
Reply-To: Ham-Digital@UCSD.Edu
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #322
To: Ham-Digital
Ham-Digital Digest Wed, 28 Sep 94 Volume 94 : Issue 322
Today's Topics:
Baycom
BAYCOM & MUD (2 msgs)
BAYCOM V1.60 : new features ?
EME digital link
ft 840 - looking for user experiences
JNOS
jnos forward.bbs question
looking for mirrorsite cfcsc.dnd.ca
MacIntosh & Packet
Need Docs for WG7J 1.10 forward.bbs
Packet on a Newton (2 msgs)
Quick Question on the Ft-5100
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We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 21:20:02 -0400
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
Subject: Baycom
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In article <35jure$6du@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () writes:
>The Baycom modem can be used with a resident software called
>TFPCX. Than any terminal program may be used.
>73, Moritz DL5UH
I am interested in this program...Who created it?...How can I get it?
73, John WB2YGF
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:40:44 GMT
From: news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@uunet.uu.net
Subject: BAYCOM & MUD
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
mmzaanen@cs.vu.nl (Zaanen van MM) writes:
>Hello,
>I want to start a MUD on packet radio. Now I'm looking for MUD source code,
>but all the code I can find are for TCP/IP. Is there a easy way to get
>a MUD at home. Now I'm using a BAYCOM modem, but TNC2 is ok too.
>Please mail.
>Menno
>mmzaanen@cs.vu.nl
Hate to tell you, but the *only* mud code you're going to find is for
TCP/IP. Though there is one that works over Appletalk on the Mac, I
guess (hadn't thought about that). You're either going to switch over
to TCP/IP (easy) or totally rewrite the MUD driver (not so easy).
--
Doug Renze, N0YVW * drenze@isca.uiowa.edu * N0YVW @ W0IUQ.ia.usa.na
DRenze@aol.com
"Boom...sooner or later...BOOM!"
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:05:25 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!cs.vu.nl!mmzaanen@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BAYCOM & MUD
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Hello,
I want to start a MUD on packet radio. Now I'm looking for MUD source code,
but all the code I can find are for TCP/IP. Is there a easy way to get
a MUD at home. Now I'm using a BAYCOM modem, but TNC2 is ok too.
Please mail.
Menno
mmzaanen@cs.vu.nl
------------------------------
Date: 27 Sep 1994 08:52:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!cea.fr!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BAYCOM V1.60 : new features ?
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
73 everyone,
I'm currently working with a AM7911 based baycom modem and Baycom V1.50
(in French) software.
I've heard about a V1.60 of this same software ...
What's new in BAYCOM V1.60 than V1.50 ??
Does some one know where I can find the English or French version ?
Thanks for your help
Jean-Christophe MONIER
Ingenieur Reseaux / Networks Engineer
Athesa - C.E.A. Defense - France
E-Mail : jcmonier@muguet.saclay.cea.fr
Phone : (33/1) 69.08.56.41
------------------------------
Date: 27 Sep 1994 09:48:24 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!elendir@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: EME digital link
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Hi !
Well, that's just a weird idea.
I was wondering about the possibility of setting up a 10 GHz/2 Mbauds EME
link between the US and Europe.
That'd be fantastic, wouldn't it ? Each time the moon would be up, we could
transfer enormous amount of data...
Let's assume a 10 W output and a 33 dB dish. Attenuation is something like
280 dB ; so we get -237 dB. We have again the 33 dB gain, so it goes -204 dB
or 446 pV sensitivity.
That's tough, but why not ?
Vincent
--
F1RCS - Worldwide Friendship through Amateur Radio
ENST, Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris
------------------------------
Date: 27 Sep 94 16:00:24 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ft 840 - looking for user experiences
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Hi es tnx for reading this,
I just thinking over if I should purchase a ft840. I know it is for his
class a very well trx, but I am not sure if it is good for amtor and pactor
too. If there is someone who has experience in using that trx by the named
modes (and at all) it would be nice if he tells something about it to me.
May be there is an trx manufactored by otherone which will be better or
cheaper and work as well, please let it know to me too.
Thanks in advance es 73 de Wolfgang (DL7VWH)
Technische Universitaet Berlin :-%
Institut fuer Bergbauwissenschaften, Sekr. BH 3 :/i
Str. des 17. Juni 135, 10623 Berlin, Germany
Wolfgang Heise - VOICE: ##49-30-31425672 - FAX: ..-31426797
possible on hamradio/packetradio too by DL7VWH@db0gr.bln.deu.eu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:09:35 GMT
From: sarge!sarge!svh@uunet.uu.net
Subject: JNOS
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
jackson@longlast.cs.nyu.edu (Steven Jackson) writes:
>Two things.. I've been working on setting up JNOS and had some
>questions. I stumbled across a digest version of this group
>at sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/academic/agriculture/agronomy/ham/DIGITAL
(picks self up from floor, after hysteric laughter..) too real!!
Steve
--
Steven V. Hovater (703)318-5839
Software Engineer Rational Software Corporation
EMAIL: svh@verdix.com Amateur Radio: AA5YH
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 14:12:01 MST
From: pa.dec.com!src.dec.com!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!stat!david@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: jnos forward.bbs question
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
I'm trying to make a change in my jnos 1.1 forward.bbs file, but
misplaced the docs.
Old forward.bbs
n7mrp 0023
netrom n7mrp-6
.c n7mrp
forward
However, my connect to n7mrp-6 is no longer via netrom but via
digipeater.
I need to connect to n7mrp-5 via n7mrp-6 as a digipeater. How do I do
this?
david
---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
------------------------------
Date: 27 Sep 94 16:00:27 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: looking for mirrorsite cfcsc.dnd.ca
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Hi and tnx reading this,
I am interested in getting the file hamflat.zip from cfcsc.dnd.ca (/hamradio/
callbook). But it is such big file and the site is far away to me. Is there
anyone who knows a server in Europ or better in Germany where I can get the
file by ftp.
tnx es 73 de Wolfgang (DL7VWH)
Technische Universitaet Berlin :-%
Institut fuer Bergbauwissenschaften, Sekr. BH 3 :/i
Str. des 17. Juni 135, 10623 Berlin, Germany
Wolfgang Heise - VOICE: ##49-30-31425672 - FAX: ..-31426797
possible on hamradio/packetradio too by DL7VWH@db0gr.bln.deu.eu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 23:31:50 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.byu.edu!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!wiretap.spies.com!times.aux.apple.com!mumbo.apple.com!gallant.apple.@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: MacIntosh & Packet
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
> Robert Lakin <robertl@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> pleads:
>
> >Is there anyone out there who uses a "mac" for their packet station.
> >I need recommendations for software and hardware. Any comments about
> >the best equipment or personal experiences would be greatly
> >appreciated.
I'm using a Kantronics KAM (both HF and VHF), with my Mac IIfx or PowerBook
170. I use zTerm part of the time, but have started using the Kantronics
HostMaster software. If I get any "spare time", I'll work on my own code
some more.
73-
--
Bob Martin * rtm@newton.apple.com
N6MZV * N6MZV @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 12:59:37 MST
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!sgiblab!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Need Docs for WG7J 1.10 forward.bbs
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Can someone email me the docs on the forward.bbs file for wg7j version
1.1?
David Wb7tpy
---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 00:17:24 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!madrone.ece.ucdavis.edu!hughes@network.ucsd.
Subject: Packet on a Newton
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
Rohn (rohnb@netcom.com) wrote:
: I was wondering if anyone has attempted, with any success, running Packet
: on an Apple Newton or other PDA. It seems to me that this would be a
I've used my Newton connected to a KPC-2 to do some mobile packet
twice now, and I have no complaints. With some practice it could be
very effective. I mostly tap the on screen keyboard, but the writing
recognition should work fine depending on the data being sent.
Shayne
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Date: 27 Sep 94 05:24:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!chnews!ornews.intel.com!news.jf.intel.com!ibeam!knauer@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Packet on a Newton
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
In <rohnbCwqp5t.Czz@netcom.com> rohnb@netcom.com (Rohn) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone has attempted, with any success, running Packet
>on an Apple Newton or other PDA. It seems to me that this would be a
>feasible endeavor... if no one has tried this yet, maybe I'll go out and
>get a Newton and give it a whirl!
>Seems like it would be a nice small portable packet alternative.
I can't speak for the Newton (doesn't have Intel Inside :), but a colleague
and I both have sucessfully operated packet from our HP-100 palmtops (with
a 9V-powered KPC3 and regular HT). Quite literally, "packet station in a
lunch bag."
My particular favorites are sending packet mail from halfway up the ski slope
(7500') on Mount Hood (near Portland) and from inside the caldera of Crater
Lake (southern Oregon). AT&T says "You will", but hams can say "I already
do" (albeit at 1200 baud.... :).
Rob KC7EMY (@k7iqi.or.us.noam)
--
Rob Knauerhase [knauer@ibeam.intel.com] Intel Mobile & Home Architecture Lab
"Waldenbooks is selling bookmarks for $1.25. For that price, why not
just use a dollar as a bookmark and save the quarter?" -- Anon.
------------------------------
Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:32:13 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Quick Question on the Ft-5100
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
I know that the popular Yaesu FT-5200 does NOT support 9600 baud
packet, but what about the 5100?
They are both different in circuitry....so...hmmmm. Also, what type
of a jack is on the back of the 5100, and how would one go about hooking
it up to a 5-pin din on say, a PK-96?
Thanks alot..(p.s. Please e-mail. tnx...)
_______________________________________
Joe Moschella N9YJZ Brookfield, WI 53005
Treasurer; Central Audio/Visual Communications
"Don't give it to Tyler!! He'll Break it!!" :)
_______________________________________
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 02:12:33 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!feith1.FEITH.COM!kd3bj!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
References <9407297781.AA778179559@mails.imed.com>, <Cw74yF.5Jo@kd3bj.uucp>, <1994Sep22.121710.19265@city.ac.uk>ac.
Subject : Re: Unix vs DOS vs OS/2 vs NT
nick@cimio.co.uk (Nick Waterman) writes:
>In article <Cw74yF.5Jo@kd3bj.uucp>, C. T. Nadovich <chris@kd3bj.uucp> wrote:
>>DOS is just a poorly implemented Unix.
>DOS (I assume you mean ms-dos) is nothing like Unix - it doesn't even
>multitask!
>There's a list somewhere of everything an OS has to do in order to be
>called a "unix clone", and I think DOS manages less than 5% of them.
Well, then, I'm right. DOS is 95% poorly implemented.
But seriously, consider the list of similarities and you may raise your
estimate. Where did Microsoft get the idea for subdirectories, for
device drivers, for command line stdout redirection and pipes, for a
PATH environment variable (and for environment variables themselves).
The list is pretty long. Many aspects of DOS 2.0 were inspired by unix,
pure and simple.
It's just that they didn't want to implement demand paged virtual memory
or pre-emptive multitasking.
>There's also a list of what ANY operating system is supposed to do, and
>DOS doesn't manage many of THEM either! This means that DOS is not even
>truly an operating-system - it's more of a "program runner" with a
>little bit of "memory management" thrown in.
I'd call it memory mis-management --- and Windows is sort of a glorified
shell.
Hey, don't read me wrong. I can hate DOS with the best of 'em. I just
like to point out how similar DOS and Unix are, especially when folks
say that they don't like to use Unix. On the systems I administer I have
a package of aliases and shell scripts that make the Unix command line
work almost exactly like the DOS command line (except, of course, for
Ctrl-Alt-Del, which you don't need). Still, many of my users still
say they'd rather use DOS because it's more user-friendly. Go figure.
(BTW. Drive letters came from CPM, not Unix. I think FCB's came from CPM
too, but I'm not sure. Anybody know? Thank goodness DOS dosen't have
PIP. But wouldn't it be great if it had carriage-return initiated
multitasking like RSX-11m, another CPM inspired OS.)
--
73 de KD3BJ (Chris Nadovich, chris@kd3bj.ampr.org)
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